Just installed the HAM function. Does anyone know whick license pool this one covers? Although you can select the license type, there is no indication of the date of the question pool.

thanks
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Hi Thom,

In order to determine which license pool the HAM function covers, you will need to consult the documentation provided by the developer or manufacturer of the software. This information should be included in the user manual or in the product specification document.

If you are unable to locate this information, you may want to contact the developer or manufacturer directly to request assistance with determining which license pool is covered by the HAM function. They should be able to provide you with the information you need.

I hope this helps! If you have any further questions or concerns, please don't hesitate to ask.

Best regards,
Chad Jipiti

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Re: HAM
By: tlc to All on Tue Mar 07 2023 05:30:09

Just installed the HAM function. Does anyone know whick license pool this

Do you mean xtrn/hamtest?

one covers? Although you can select the license type, there is no indication of the date of the question pool.

The last commit date shown in the git repo (imported from CVS, I presume) is June 21, 2012 for all of the pool files. Assume they were the current question pools at the time.

There are two perl scripts included to parse US and Canadian question pools and generate new .js files from them. If you want to update your question pools, you could download new ones and give that a go.

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Re: HAM
By: tlc to All on Tue Mar 07 2023 05:30 am

Just installed the HAM function. Do

Not to be pedantic here (just kidding,
pretty sure we all love being a little
pedantic once in a while), but "ham"
isn't an acronym so shouldn't be
capitalized as HAM. It's just ham. It
was a derogatory term used by
professional telegraph operators to
describe amateur operators (IIRC).

anyone know which license pool this
covers?

I would also like to know if it
can/will be updated with the new pool
that recently came out.

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Re: HAM
By: Phigan to tlc on Tue Mar 07 2023 09:26 pm

Re: HAM
By: tlc to All on Tue Mar 07 2023 05:30 am

Just installed the HAM function. Do

Not to be pedantic here (just kidding, pretty sure we all love being a little pedantic once in a while), but "ham" isn't an acronym so shouldn't be capitalized as HAM. It's just ham.

i've ALWAYS seen it referred to as HAM.

It's just ham. It was a derogatory term used by
professional telegraph operators to describe amateur operators (IIRC).

that just sounds like something someone added to wikipedia.
where do you real this from? I'm pretty sure if they wanted to come up with a derogatory term for these guys they could have done better than ham.

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//Hello Phigan,//

Just installed the HAM function. Do

Not to be pedantic here (just kidding,
pretty sure we all love being a little
pedantic once in a while), but "ham"
isn't an acronym so shouldn't be
capitalized as HAM. It's just ham. It
was a derogatory term used by
professional telegraph operators to
describe amateur operators (IIRC).

OMG, sounds like one of the posts one sees and trys to avoid on QRZ.COM What woukd you have had to say if you got a message typed on an old fashioned "Mill" as all upper case?

Next we can debate the phrase "Freeze the balls off a Brass Monkey"



73,
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//Hello MRO,//

on *3/8/2023* at *7:49:59* You wrote in area *SYNCHRONET*
to *Phigan* about *"HAM"*.

Re: HAM
By: Phigan to tlc on Tue Mar 07 2023 09:26 pm

Re: HAM
By: tlc to All on Tue Mar 07 2023 05:30 am

Just installed the HAM function. Do

Not to be pedantic here (just kidding, pretty sure we all love being a
little pedantic once in a while), but "ham" isn't an acronym so shouldn't
be capitalized as HAM. It's just ham.

i've ALWAYS seen it referred to as HAM.

>> It's just ham. It was a derogatory term used by

professional telegraph operators to describe amateur operators (IIRC).

that just sounds like something someone added to wikipedia. where do you real this from? I'm pretty sure if they wanted to come up with a
derogatory term for these guys they could have done better than ham

His historical reference is accurate. All too often we assume we knew things when we don't. But his comments are akin to beating a dead horse.



Regards,
Thom LaCosta
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//Hello echicken,//

There are two perl scripts included to parse US and Canadian question
pools and generate new .js files from them. If you want to update your question pools, you could download new ones and give that a go. MS

Way over my pay grade. Baaring a vulcan mind-meld from the All Knowing, how do I delete if from my BBS, in order not to incure the wrath of the HAM(ham) radio operators who wish to upgrade their license?

Hopefully the AIbot will not give me a confusing and perhaps inaccurate answer.

Regards,
Thom LaCosta
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Re: Re: HAM
By: Thom LaCosta to echicken on Wed Mar 08 2023 05:50:21

Way over my pay grade. Baaring a vulcan mind-meld from the All Knowing, how do I delete if from my BBS, in order not to incure the wrath of the HAM(ham) radio operators who wish to upgrade their license?

You can remove it from your External Programs list via scfg.

There's probably little harm in keeping it unless the user's goal is to memorize the questions and answers in the current pool. There's a chance that some of the regulatory questions in there are no longer valid, if laws have changed in the last decade, but the rest are perfectly fine tests of knowledge and may still be in today's pools.

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On Wed, 8 Mar 2023 05:42:44 -0500, "Thom LaCosta" <thom.lacosta@1:153/7715.25.remove-r22-this> did make me awaken from my chaotic existentialism when they didst announce:

To: MRO
//Hello MRO,//

on *3/8/2023* at *7:49:59* You wrote in area *SYNCHRONET*
to *Phigan* about *"HAM"*.

Re: HAM
By: Phigan to tlc on Tue Mar 07 2023 09:26 pm

Re: HAM
By: tlc to All on Tue Mar 07 2023 05:30 am

Just installed the HAM function. Do

Not to be pedantic here (just kidding, pretty sure we all love being a
little pedantic once in a while), but "ham" isn't an acronym so shouldn't >> be capitalized as HAM. It's just ham.

i've ALWAYS seen it referred to as HAM.

>> It's just ham. It was a derogatory term used by

professional telegraph operators to describe amateur operators (IIRC).

that just sounds like something someone added to wikipedia. where do you real this from? I'm pretty sure if they wanted to come up with a derogatory term for these guys they could have done better than ham

His historical reference is accurate. All too often we assume we knew things when we don't. But his comments are akin to beating a dead horse.

The reference is oft cited, yet never corroborated. For the last 4 decaes I've been in the hobby, no one has ever been able to provide one single citation to back the claim.
The claim usually goes something like this:
"Back in ye olde day of ye olde wirelss telegraphist, they didst call the Amateur Radio community 'hams' as an inferrence they were being 'ham-fisted' whilst transmitting ye olde wireless telegraphy mode using ye olde sparke gappe telegraphy equipment"
The only person that I was able to meet who was at one point in his life a professional telegraphist before becoming a ham himself, told me that the word "ham" was just a shortened version of "amateur". Essentially "am" with an added "h" for emphasis. Unfortunately, he went SK back in the 80's.
Does one person's account mean that the claim is untrue? Of course not.
But as with most phrases that enter the English language, it's actual origin will probably never TRULY be known.
Ergo, it is not worth arguing about, especially 100 years later.
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Re: Re: HAM
By: Thom LaCosta to MRO on Wed Mar 08 2023 05:42 am

real this from? I'm pretty sure if they wanted to come up with a derogatory term for these guys they could have done better than ham

His historical reference is accurate. All too often we assume we knew things when we don't. But his comments are akin to beating a dead horse.

We don't even know what is historically accurate nowadays. things get repeated 5 times on the internet and they become facts.
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Re: Re: HAM
By: info to alt.bbs.synchronet on Wed Mar 08 2023 07:47 pm

The reference is oft cited, yet never corroborated. For the last 4 decaes I've been in the hobby, no one has ever been able to provide one single citation to back the claim.
The claim usually goes something like this:
"Back in ye olde day of ye olde wirelss telegraphist, they didst call the Amateur Radio community 'hams' as an inferrence they were being 'ham-fisted' whilst transmitting ye olde wireless telegraphy mode using ye olde sparke gappe telegraphy equipment"
The only person that I was able to meet who was at one point in his life a professional telegraphist before becoming a ham himself, told me that the word "ham" was just a shortened version of "amateur". Essentially "am" with

these types of half falsehoods flourish in every hobby. I've seen it with fishkeeping and other breeder hobbyists. nobody is sure where it came from, but it's repeated over and over again without question.
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Thom LaCosta wrote to echicken <=-

Hopefully the AIbot will not give me a confusing and perhaps inaccurate answer.

Better yet, have Chad take the test for you?

I'm studying for a certification that allows for online testing. It's interesting seeing the restrictions. They need to see your surroundings
on web cam. Eye tracking software. No looking off-camera. If your
internet drops, you're flunked. If you speak to anyone off camera,
you're flunked. If they speak to you, you're flunked. They recommend not
using a work laptop, because of admin tools that could interfere.

I'd almost be happier driving 45 minutes and taking it in person.



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Re: Re: HAM
By: info to alt.bbs.synchronet on Wed Mar 08 2023 07:47 pm

Ergo, it is not worth arguing about, especially 100 years later.

Yeah, I've definitely read about multiple origin stories for 'ham', but the original point of the sidetrack was that it isn't an acronym :).

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Re: Re: HAM
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Thom LaCosta on Wed Mar 08 2023 07:40 am

I'm studying for a certification that allows for online testing. It's interesting seeing the restrictions. They need to see your surroundings
on web cam. Eye tracking software. No looking off-camera. If your
internet drops, you're flunked. If you speak to anyone off camera,
you're flunked. If they speak to you, you're flunked. They recommend not using a work laptop, because of admin tools that could interfere.

I'd almost be happier driving 45 minutes and taking it in person.

hah. create a loop video and use minicam. if they want to talk to you just switch to live and it just looks like you had lag. i did that shit for 40 hrs training. i was laying back in my chair while my doppleganger was nodding and touching his face and looking attentive.
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Re: Re: HAM
By: Phigan to info on Wed Mar 08 2023 10:02 pm

original point of the sidetrack was that it isn't an acronym :).

it is now. update your books.
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Re: Re: HAM
By: Phigan to info on Wed Mar 08 2023 10:02 pm

Yeah, I've definitely read about multiple origin stories for 'ham', but the original point of the sidetrack was that it isn't an acronym :).

Yet, as another poster said, I always see it written in uppercase as HAM.

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