MRO wrote to esc <=-

that being said, i've seen womans groups on facebook where these women are cut off from sex from their husbands and do man trashing. ---

"That woman's group on Facebook is just as bad" in no way makes incels
less horrible than they are. Incels are a sad, pathetic, extremely
frightening group of mysoginists whose anger is almost always close to the boiling point and who forever see women as "females" who are both less
than human an unworthy of being anything but walking vaginas.

Incels are not just a group of guys who are mad about not being able to
find a sexual partner, they are a group of men with major mental illnesses
that have deluded themselves into believing that the world exists only to
mock and attack them. And unfortunately they have mobilized and some are starting to act out violently.

Within the last few years, there was an incel in Toronto who purposefully
drove a van down a sidewalk in a busy part of the city. He killed eleven
people and injured like twice that many. Incel circles rejoiced! That's
one of the main reasons that r/incel was banned, along with its attempted replacements (e.g. r/braincels).

But don't take my word for it:

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2022/jun/13/toronto-van-murders-court-victim-2018-attack
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/incel-threat-secret-service-report/



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Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
By: bex to MRO on Wed Sep 21 2022 09:49 am

"That woman's group on Facebook is just as bad" in no way makes incels less horrible than they are. Incels are a sad, pathetic, extremely frightening group of mysoginists whose anger is almost always close to the boiling point and who forever see women as "females" who are both less than human an unworthy of being anything but walking vaginas.

It reminds me of what I've read of the Men Going Their Own Way movement and/or the Red Pill movement.

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Arelor said to bex: <=-

By the way, I don't deal with enough people to make for a substantial statistical pool, but there was an study somewhere that claimed 92 or
94% of women prefered to be approached and that the rest was the
minority that would act on their own.

What study was that? Link to it? That sounds more like a poll than a
study, and it sounds more like a poll from a magazine or on social media
than any kind of legitimate poll. How could there be anything that could encompass all women? What do you consider a typical woman? You have to
start breaking things down along demographic categories. I can guarantee
you that the number of women between 18-24 and 50-54 will have VASTLY
different answers about who should make initial contact.

Age ranges are just one category though. In the 50-54 age range, women who
live in an urban area (like me) will have a different view than
women in a rural area. For urbanites, those that have a job and children
will have a different view than those who are career-focused and those who aren't working.

The ones that advance themselves seem to be the "Live Dangerously and
Die Young" variety, *IN MY EXPERIENCE.*

I added even more emphasis to your most important sentence there, my
friend. You seem to both be admitting that you are only discussing what
you've experienced while still trying to extrapolate how things work for
every other person in the world from your experiences. Are you familiar
with the cave allegory?

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Arelor wrote to bex <=-

First off, lemme say that my experiences and reactions are my own, and
other women might have very different ones. I mentioned in a previous post
that there's no such thing as a "typical woman" after all. (:

BTW, starting a conversation is not making a move. Far from it.

So.... to make a move, you are just going to come up to someone and say something like "Hi, you don't know me, but I wanted to see if you wanted to
go on a date with me"? Because I've gotta tell you, that would generate an immediate "no thanks". Women want to spend some time talking, getting to
know a person so they can see if there's shared interest there.

Getting close to a guy and telling him that you like that book he is reading is an attempt at getting him to make a move. When I want a girl

No, it's a way of saying "hi" and learning a little about the person. It's making a human connection. And it's a way to see if there's any hint of interest back my way.

phoning the police because you want them to shoot a drug dealer is to shooting a drug dealer down.

Your metaphor is so out there that I won't even acknowledge it, but this
part made me want to ask: Isn't a person supposed to call the police and
say "I think that person is a drug dealer, because they are always doing <insert behavior>" instead of thinking "I think that person is a drug
dealer" and murdering them?

You made me giggle, thank you!

usually the dudes. When a dude wants something with a girl, and the
girl is not interested, the guy rarely gets a straight answer. It is always an "I am busy" or "Maybe next week" or some other cover-up.

I think there are two main reasons for this:

1) An innate feeling of not wanting to hurt someone's feelings.
2) The possibility of being verbally or physically assaulted after
rejecting someone. To see how common people lashing out after being
rejected is, spend a few minutes in r/niceguys, r/creepyPMs, etc


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Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
By: bex to Arelor on Wed Sep 21 2022 10:46 pm

By the way, I don't deal with enough people to make for a substantial statistical pool, but there was an study somewhere that claimed 92 or 94% of women prefered to be approached and that the rest was the minority that would act on their own.

What study was that? Link to it? That sounds more like a poll than a
study, and it sounds more like a poll from a magazine or on social media

I don't think it is available online. There was a presentation of it at the Western Psychological Associations meeting in 2011 I think.

For something more informal, you have this: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-how-and-why-sex-differences/201104/ why-dont-women-ask-men-out-first-dates



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Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
By: bex to Arelor on Wed Sep 21 2022 10:46 pm

I added even more emphasis to your most important sentence there, my
friend. You seem to both be admitting that you are only discussing what you've experienced while still trying to extrapolate how things work for every other person in the world from your experiences. Are you familiar
with the cave allegory?

Actually it is the other way around. I hear what other people says, read what they write, and then compare it with my own experience and see it adds up.


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Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
By: bex to Arelor on Thu Sep 22 2022 03:21 pm

Arelor wrote to bex <=-

First off, lemme say that my experiences and reactions are my own, and
other women might have very different ones. I mentioned in a previous post that there's no such thing as a "typical woman" after all. (:

BTW, starting a conversation is not making a move. Far from it.

So.... to make a move, you are just going to come up to someone and say something like "Hi, you don't know me, but I wanted to see if you wanted to go on a date with me"? Because I've gotta tell you, that would generate an immediate "no thanks". Women want to spend some time talking, getting to know a person so they can see if there's shared interest there.

Getting close to a guy and telling him that you like that book he is reading is an attempt at getting him to make a move. When I want a girl

No, it's a way of saying "hi" and learning a little about the person. It's making a human connection. And it's a way to see if there's any hint of interest back my way.

phoning the police because you want them to shoot a drug dealer is to shooting a drug dealer down.

Your metaphor is so out there that I won't even acknowledge it, but this part made me want to ask: Isn't a person supposed to call the police and
say "I think that person is a drug dealer, because they are always doing <insert behavior>" instead of thinking "I think that person is a drug dealer" and murdering them?

You made me giggle, thank you!

usually the dudes. When a dude wants something with a girl, and the girl is not interested, the guy rarely gets a straight answer. It is always an "I am busy" or "Maybe next week" or some other cover-up.

I think there are two main reasons for this:

1) An innate feeling of not wanting to hurt someone's feelings.
2) The possibility of being verbally or physically assaulted after
rejecting someone. To see how common people lashing out after being
rejected is, spend a few minutes in r/niceguys, r/creepyPMs, etc

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I bet some people can pop up out of the blue in front of a girl and ask her out right away, and get a result. I don't think it is common either. That is absolutely not what I am talking about. For the record: the experiment has been done informally with both men to women and women to men, the experiments are recorded, and results are hillarious.

No, what I am talking about is what the Psychology today article I have just mentioned describes as Risky Initiatives. Women's way of grabbing a man is trying to give cues that they are available, but they don't take any risk or communicate their intentions outright. They act like one of my mares: she is afraid her barn companion will punish her if she asks me for pats, so what she does instead is keeping her distance and following me from afar, with the hope that I will notice she is there and may want to walk up to her and pet her. (Meanwhile, when the other ones wants pats, she outright walks towards me and kisses my face all over).

BTW I both oppose the war on drugs and think that begging the administration to do something is just a way of getting something done, rejecting the responsibility that comes from the action. Just like trying to show you are available for dating without making an explicit move towards that goal: if it does not work out, you can avoid any backslash because you were not exposed to it to begin with.


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Nightfox wrote to bex <=-

less horrible than they are. Incels are a sad, pathetic, extremely frightening group of mysoginists whose anger is almost always close to the boiling point and who forever see women as "females" who are both less than human an unworthy of being anything but walking vaginas.

It reminds me of what I've read of the Men Going Their Own Way movement and/or the Red Pill movement.

:O There are more groups like that? *shudder*


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Arelor wrote to bex <=-

What study was that? Link to it? That sounds more like a poll than a
study, and it sounds more like a poll from a magazine or on social media

I don't think it is available online. There was a presentation of it at the Western Psychological Associations meeting in 2011 I think.

For something more informal, you have this: https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/blog/the-how-and-why-sex-differences/ 201104/
why-dont-women-ask-men-out-first-dates

Thanks! That was an interesting read. The one question I would have about
it would be their sample - college-aged women they found on campus - but
the points that Mills made are thought provoking.


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Arelor wrote to bex <=-

take any risk or communicate their intentions outright. They act like
one of my mares: she is afraid her barn companion will punish her if
she asks me for pats, so what she does instead is keeping her distance

:O

You didn't really just write that, did you? Comparing - in any way, metaphorically, philosophically, trolling - women to mares?

Sir, I will *not* continue a conversation after that statement.


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Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
By: bex to Arelor on Mon Sep 26 2022 08:35 am

Arelor wrote to bex <=-

take any risk or communicate their intentions outright. They act like one of my mares: she is afraid her barn companion will punish her if she asks me for pats, so what she does instead is keeping her distance

:O

You didn't really just write that, did you? Comparing - in any way, metaphorically, philosophically, trolling - women to mares?

Sir, I will *not* continue a conversation after that statement.

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If women were more like horses, they would be so much more interesting to
hang around. Not to mention safer.


Not to mention more cute and cuddly.
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If women were more like horses, they would be so much more interesting to hang around. Not to mention safer.

Not to mention more cute and cuddly.

Not real sure where the comparison to horses is offensive (at least, in
this case), either. Maybe that is because I live in Kentucky where many
people (male and female) regard their horses much more highly than their
fellow humans.


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Dumas Walker wrote to ARELOR <=-

If women were more like horses, they would be so much more interesting to hang around. Not to mention safer.

Not to mention more cute and cuddly.

Not real sure where the comparison to horses is offensive (at
least, in this case), either. Maybe that is because I live in
Kentucky where many people (male and female) regard their horses
much more highly than their fellow humans.

It isn't offensive to most, just to the "woke" types.

I regard my dogs much more highly than most humans. ;-)



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I regard my dogs much more highly than most humans. ;-)

As do I! Well, in general, dogs are better than people IMO. And I'm woke as a mfer.

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esc wrote to Gamgee <=-

I regard my dogs much more highly than most humans. ;-)

As do I! Well, in general, dogs are better than people IMO.

No doubt about that!

And I'm woke as a mfer.

Well, you are in Kalifornia, so that's to be expected. :-)

But... my comment before (which you snipped for some reason), regarding
"woke" was how easily people like that are offended. It had nothing to
do with the value of dogs vs humans.

Excessive context snipping really doesn't help the flow of
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Well, you are in Kalifornia, so that's to be expected. :-)

Ha! Yeah, it's funny, we are on a road trip and as soon as you get away from the populated areas, California has a completely different feel. I think people forget how big this state is and how diverse of a population that can make.

But... my comment before (which you snipped for some reason), regarding "woke" was how easily people like that are offended. It had nothing to do with the value of dogs vs humans.

I know, I was trying to be funny ;)

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Arelor wrote to bex <=-

If women were more like horses, they would be so much more interesting
to hang around. Not to mention safer.

Damn, my twit list is filling up today...

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esc wrote to Gamgee <=-

Ha! Yeah, it's funny, we are on a road trip and as soon as you get away from the populated areas, California has a completely different feel. I think people forget how big this state is and how diverse of a
population that can make.

I've seen swastikas on front doors, confederate flags, TRUMP 2024 banners, people protesting vaccines on overpasses, people in trucks acting like
idiots towards Prius drivers. and trucks blocking Tesla charging stations.

You're right, you don't have to go far.


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Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
By: bex to Arelor on Thu Sep 29 2022 10:17 am

Arelor wrote to bex <=-

If women were more like horses, they would be so much more interesting to hang around. Not to mention safer.

Damn, my twit list is filling up today...

No horse has ever added somebody to a BBS Twit filter because that person said something the horse didn't want to hear.

Point for the horses.

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Arelor wrote to bex <=-

Arelor wrote to bex <=-

If women were more like horses, they would be so much more interesting to hang around. Not to mention safer.

Damn, my twit list is filling up today...

No horse has ever added somebody to a BBS Twit filter because
that person said something the horse didn't want to hear.

Point for the horses.

I'd call it: Game, Set, and Match to the horses.



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Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
By: poindexter FORTRAN to esc on Thu Sep 29 2022 06:58 am

I've seen swastikas on front doors,

bullshit. you are a fucking liar

people in trucks acting like
idiots towards Prius drivers.

that's only because prius drivers are douchebags.
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I've seen swastikas on front doors, confederate flags, TRUMP 2024 banners, people protesting vaccines on overpasses, people in trucks acting like
idiots towards Prius drivers. and trucks blocking Tesla charging stations.

You're right, you don't have to go far.

"They" tell us that this kind of things only happens in "the South" but I
have never seen any of those things aside from Confederate flags (which I
have not seen lately) and Trump banners. I have not seen anything else
like the rest of those things.

So maybe when they say "the South" they are confused and mean California?


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Damn, my twit list is filling up today...

No horse has ever added somebody to a BBS Twit filter because that person said
something the horse didn't want to hear.

Point for the horses.

Yes. I'd not blame her if you'd cursed her or something, but you didn't so
I thought it was a little harsh.


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Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
By: Dumas Walker to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Fri Sep 30 2022 04:40 pm

"They" tell us that this kind of things only happens in "the South" but I have never seen any of those things aside from Confederate flags (which I have not seen lately) and Trump banners. I have not seen anything else
like the rest of those things.

So maybe when they say "the South" they are confused and mean California?

usually when there's something like this in the news, if you follow up on it , it ends up being some liberal college kid trying to fuel their cause with something. the bad guy isn't doing anything so they have to make the evidence.

especially when there's swastikas and nooses.
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Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
By: Dumas Walker to ARELOR on Fri Sep 30 2022 04:41 pm

Damn, my twit list is filling up today...

No horse has ever added somebody to a BBS Twit filter because that person said
something the horse didn't want to hear.

Point for the horses.

i hope whoever it was added me to the twit filter.
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Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
By: Dumas Walker to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Fri Sep 30 2022 04:40 pm

I've seen swastikas on front doors, confederate flags, TRUMP 2024 banners, people protesting vaccines on overpasses, people in trucks acting like idiots towards Prius drivers. and trucks blocking Tesla charging stations.

You're right, you don't have to go far.

"They" tell us that this kind of things only happens in "the South" but I have never seen any of those things aside from Confederate flags (which I have not seen lately) and Trump banners. I have not seen anything else
like the rest of those things.

So maybe when they say "the South" they are confused and mean California?

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You can find those behaviors anywhere in varying degrees. In some places you don't have to look as hard.

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Damn, my twit list is filling up today...

No horse has ever added somebody to a BBS Twit filter because that person
said
something the horse didn't want to hear.

Point for the horses.

i hope whoever it was added me to the twit filter.

Their puny twit filter will be no match for the mighty MRO bot-net! :D


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You can find those behaviors anywhere in varying degrees. In some places you don't have to look as hard.

I agree on both counts. Having lived all my life in this area, I sometimes
get tired of certain stereotypes.


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Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
By: Dumas Walker to MRO on Mon Oct 03 2022 04:16 pm

Damn, my twit list is filling up today...

No horse has ever added somebody to a BBS Twit filter because that person
said
something the horse didn't want to hear.

Point for the horses.

i hope whoever it was added me to the twit filter.

Their puny twit filter will be no match for the mighty MRO bot-net! :D

i think only nelgin and poindexter have me in their twitlist.
so sad ;[

i should go on their bbs and post and they will wonder why they can see me.
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i think only nelgin and poindexter have me in their twitlist.

I don't have anyone in my twitlist, but I'm sure I am in a few ;)

On a side note, I noticed once I gave up alcohol, I seemingly gave up getting in heated online debates. Maybe these are connected.

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Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
By: esc to MRO on Tue Oct 04 2022 02:08 am

i think only nelgin and poindexter have me in their twitlist.

I don't have anyone in my twitlist, but I'm sure I am in a few ;)

On a side note, I noticed once I gave up alcohol, I seemingly gave up getting in heated online debates. Maybe these are connected.

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I've seen swastikas on front doors, confederate flags, TRUMP 2024
banners, people protesting vaccines on overpasses, people in trucks
acting like idiots towards Prius drivers. and trucks blocking Tesla charging stations.

You're right, you don't have to go far.

*sigh* It's even sadder because it is so true. :(


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Dumas Walker wrote to POINDEXTER FORTRAN <=-

"They" tell us that this kind of things only happens in "the South" but
I have never seen any of those things aside from Confederate flags
(which I have not seen lately) and Trump banners. I have not seen anything else like the rest of those things.

So maybe when they say "the South" they are confused and mean
California?

Not sure who "they" are, but anyone who can interpret a presidential
election results map filtered down to county could tell you that it's not a state/state, it's urban/rural.

Overlay a presidential election map on top of a satellite photo of the US at night some time. Where there's light, they vote Democrat.


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Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Tue Oct 04 2022 07:46 am

election results map filtered down to county could tell you that it's not a state/state, it's urban/rural.

Overlay a presidential election map on top of a satellite photo of the US at night some time. Where there's light, they vote Democrat.

so the dumb people vote democrat?

btw, how is your president doing. and how fun is it to walk through the streets and step in human feces and used needles.

do they still have water lines setup for people to take showers on the sidewalks?
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So maybe when they say "the South" they are confused and mean California?

Not sure who "they" are, but anyone who can interpret a presidential election results map filtered down to county could tell you that it's not a state/state, it's urban/rural.

Overlay a presidential election map on top of a satellite photo of the US at night some time. Where there's light, they vote Democrat.

Yes, they do.

Trump-supporting counties are doing better recovering jobs than those that voted for Biden

Source: CBS NEWS

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/job-growth-in-trump-voting-counties-in-the-bid en-economy/?fbclid=IwAR0pXdoOomWuW9xBHCG32HjviKTLsE-nw8o7YJNpINGINqvfJ2IbgC91RP A#app

https://tinyurl.com/ypmwvpzy

"Counties around the U.S. where a majority of voters supported former President Donald Trump in the 2020 election are regaining their lost jobs under President Joe Biden more quickly than counties that voted in favor of the current president, according to a new analysis of labor data.

"Through the end of the first quarter, Trump-supporting counties have regained nearly all the jobs they lost when the pandemic first slammed the economy in March of 2020, with employment just 0.3%, or 124,000 jobs, short of where it was prior to the COVID-19 crisis, the Economic Innovation Group found. Counties where a majority of residents voted for Biden had a deficit of 1.7 million jobs Ä 1.8% short of pre-pandemic levels Ä by the end of the first quarter of
2022."

They go on to draw the conclusion that this is because blue areas have higher populations and therefore lost more jobs which, of course, ignores that they are comparing percentages of lost jobs recovered and not total populations.

I am guessing it is more likely state and local policies in these red voting areas that are helping in their faster recovery.
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Trump-supporting counties are doing better recovering jobs than those
that voted for Biden

Source: CBS NEWS

https://www.cbsnews.com/amp/news/job-growth-in-trump-voting-counties-in- the-bid en-economy/?fbclid=IwAR0pXdoOomWuW9xBHCG32HjviKTLsE-nw8o7YJNpINGINqvfJ2I bgC91RP
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They go on to draw the conclusion that this is because blue areas have higher populations and therefore lost more jobs which, of course,
ignores that they are comparing percentages of lost jobs recovered and
not total populations.

I am guessing it is more likely state and local policies in these red voting areas that are helping in their faster recovery.

They made a pretty good case for population density and a slower recovery,
not local policies. On a state level, many red states receive more from the federal government than they pay out, so there could be an argument that
those states benefit more than the blue states, which could skews recovery numbers.




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Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Fri Oct 07 2022 06:28 am

They made a pretty good case for population density and a slower recovery, not local policies. On a state level, many red states receive more from the federal government than they pay out, so there could be an argument that those states benefit more than the blue states, which could skews recovery numbers.

that's because they are asking for help. maybe 'blue states' need to ask for help.

i dont like this red vs blue division shit. that will get us all no where.
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Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
By: poindexter FORTRAN to Dumas Walker on Tue Oct 04 2022 07:46 am

Not sure who "they" are, but anyone who can interpret a presidential election results map filtered down to county could tell you that it's not a state/state, it's urban/rural.

Overlay a presidential election map on top of a satellite photo of the US at night some time. Where there's light, they vote Democrat.

It would not surprise me. Big population centers tend to dilute responsibility so
people takes responsibility as a group instead of individually.

Case point: my boss sent me as a representative to a house owners association's meeting to discuss some budgets and other trivialities. I observed that the members of
the group were very liberal with the use of money since it was not theirs, but the
asociation's. A member would point at an issue that needed fixing, everybody would
agree the issue needed fixing, and then somebody would propose a budget allocation for
the problem. So far, so good. The concern I got from the meeting is that people was
voting the budget allocations without asking how the money was going to be _used_ or
what the utimate goals were.

For example, if somebody pointed out that there was not enough money in the bank to
purchase fuel, he would recommend to rise the membership's fee by ten EUR. Then everybody would agree without asking what the target was (ie. how much money do we
expect to have in the bank account and for buying when, and how quickly did we need to
raise the funds).

Basically, they were throwing money into a pot and expecting the administrator to make
the most of it so they don't have to worry, which is the socialist way.

It is easy to make the comparison when you live in a unifamiliar house in which you
need to count every penny and allocate every single dollar wisely, because if you lose
control of the funds you freeze in winter. Urbanites throw money at the administrator
and if things go wrong they blame a third party, meanwhile a rural redneck has to
manage his own house himself and acknowledge that any failure at managing the funds is
his mistake.

It dawned on me some weeks ago The differences at managing one's life are so fundamental as to be unreconciliable.

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Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
By: Arelor to poindexter FORTRAN on Tue Oct 11 2022 04:26 pm

Not sure who "they" are, but anyone who can interpret a presidential election results map filtered down to county could tell you that it's not a state/state, it's urban/rural.

Overlay a presidential election map on top of a satellite photo of the US at night some time. Where there's light, they vote Democrat.

It would not surprise me. Big population centers tend to dilute

that was just an ignorant comment he made

https://i.imgur.com/3KHxRm6.png

so he mentioned counties.
i only know my own (democrat) state that well so i looked at election results from 2000 2004 2008 2012 2016 2020

there's nothing to support his claim. if anything the rural people vote democrat because they think democrats are for the common man.

source https://www.wisn.com/article/wisconsin-election-results-county-history/34131922
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Re: Re: Owning vs Ride Share
By: esc to MRO on Mon Sep 12 2022 18:59:00


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