• Robot Holocaust (1987)

    From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to All on Tue Feb 28 18:03:50 2023
    Hello, moviegoers! I know you missed my awesome movie reviews, so here I am with yet
    another film! This review should not be considered a regular one, however, because I
    want to think it is a warning to prevent uncautious people from making the same mistake I made and watching this garbage.

    I believe myself unable to command the English language with proficency enough to
    convey just how awful this film is, but for the good of humanity I will try my best.

    Robot Holocaust's sorry excuse of a plot takes place after the Robots rebel against
    humanity, enslave us and take control of the planet. In order to operate their power
    production facilities, robots keep human slaves working day and night, feeding their
    power plants. It order to ensure the humans can't rebel, the robots control the air
    slaves breath. They have the power to supply or deny fresh air to the workers, so
    thoughts of rebellion are impossible, until some underground scientist and his daughter create some technoawesome implants that allow humans to survive without fresh
    air. When the robots learn this, they capture the scientist and hold him for interrogation. It is up to a bunch of human misfits to sneak into the fortress of the
    Dark Master, the supreme AI, and save him or die trying.

    It looks like a good enough plot for a B-Movie, doesn't it? That is just what I thought myself. Let s see what went wrong.

    For starters, the screenplay development is so badly done you'd think the filmakers
    were all from Italy. They can't convey the core plot points via screenplay, so they
    resort to exposition infodumps. I am not against infodumps as a matter of principle -
    for example, Star Wars would drop an infodump at the begining of each movie to get the
    story going - but the issue here is it is obvious they need to dump the information on
    the unsuspecting viewer every three minutes because they can't figure a way of giving
    us core information on the go.

    This translates in many scenes in which we get voiceovers explaining things that would
    have been self-explanatory with proper planning. For example, if your Sci-fi world has
    mutants and you want to elaborate on the nature of the mutants, you have two options
    for conveying the idea. The first one is to casually introduce the subject in some
    scene before mutants are encountered, posssibly via some dialog ("I am scared of this
    place. My uncle told me there are mutants about. They were all radiated by The Bomb
    and turned into cannibalistic monsters!") The second one is to just throw the mutants
    at the heroes as soon as they enter the forest and have a narrator tell the audience
    "There were mutants in the forest".

    I hesitate to classify the acting as atrocious, because I fail to see any acting in
    this movie. I have not done any research, but I feel tempted to bet many of the actors
    and actresses had never participated in a film in which they were all dressed and not
    boinking each other before.


    Robot Holocaust tries to capture the athmosphere of Sword and Sorcery movies and add a
    cyberpunk twist. Robots and mutants are torn asunder by barbarians wielding cardboard
    swords. It could have worked if the scenery and the customes didn't look purchased in
    some post-carnival sale in which retailers were trying to get rid of all the customes
    that hadn't been sold because they were so fucking bad. The sword fighting was atrociously filmed, and the mutant monstruosities were so cheaply made I doubt they
    spent more than ten bucks on the whole thing.

    All in all, the only Holocaust in this movie is the one you will get if you broadcast
    this over mainstream media and have people watch it. I guarantee most of the population will commit suicide two minutes into the film, not because of the pain of
    watching the movie itself but because of the pain of knowing the Universe is such a
    dark place that the laws of physics allow movies like this to be a possibility.

    Don't watch. You have been warned.


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Arelor on Wed Mar 1 10:11:00 2023
    Re: Robot Holocaust (1987)
    By: Arelor to All on Tue Feb 28 2023 06:03 pm

    Hello, moviegoers! I know you missed my awesome movie reviews, so here I am another film! This review should not be considered a regular one, however, b want to think it is a warning to prevent uncautious people from making the s mistake I made and watching this garbage.

    I believe myself unable to command the English language with proficency enou convey just how awful this film is, but for the good of humanity I will try

    Robot Holocaust's sorry excuse of a plot takes place after the Robots rebel humanity, enslave us and take control of the planet. In order to operate the production facilities, robots keep human slaves working day and night, feedi power plants. It order to ensure the humans can't rebel, the robots control slaves breath. They have the power to supply or deny fresh air to the worker thoughts of rebellion are impossible, until some underground scientist and h daughter create some technoawesome implants that allow humans to survive wit air. When the robots learn this, they capture the scientist and hold him for interrogation. It is up to a bunch of human misfits to sneak into the fortre Dark Master, the supreme AI, and save him or die trying.

    It looks like a good enough plot for a B-Movie, doesn't it? That is just wha thought myself. Let s see what went wrong.

    For starters, the screenplay development is so badly done you'd think the fi were all from Italy. They can't convey the core plot points via screenplay, resort to exposition infodumps. I am not against infodumps as a matter of pr for example, Star Wars would drop an infodump at the begining of each movie story going - but the issue here is it is obvious they need to dump the info the unsuspecting viewer every three minutes because they can't figure a way us core information on the go.

    This translates in many scenes in which we get voiceovers explaining things have been self-explanatory with proper planning. For example, if your Sci-fi mutants and you want to elaborate on the nature of the mutants, you have two for conveying the idea. The first one is to casually introduce the subject i scene before mutants are encountered, posssibly via some dialog ("I am scare place. My uncle told me there are mutants about. They were all radiated by T and turned into cannibalistic monsters!") The second one is to just throw th at the heroes as soon as they enter the forest and have a narrator tell the "There were mutants in the forest".

    I hesitate to classify the acting as atrocious, because I fail to see any ac this movie. I have not done any research, but I feel tempted to bet many of and actresses had never participated in a film in which they were all dresse boinking each other before.


    Robot Holocaust tries to capture the athmosphere of Sword and Sorcery movies cyberpunk twist. Robots and mutants are torn asunder by barbarians wielding swords. It could have worked if the scenery and the customes didn't look pur some post-carnival sale in which retailers were trying to get rid of all the that hadn't been sold because they were so fucking bad. The sword fighting w atrociously filmed, and the mutant monstruosities were so cheaply made I dou spent more than ten bucks on the whole thing.

    All in all, the only Holocaust in this movie is the one you will get if you this over mainstream media and have people watch it. I guarantee most of the population will commit suicide two minutes into the film, not because of the watching the movie itself but because of the pain of knowing the Universe is dark place that the laws of physics allow movies like this to be a possibili

    Don't watch. You have been warned.


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    This sounds like a movie you would like to turn off your brain and enjoy.

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Moondog on Wed Mar 1 17:40:09 2023
    Re: Robot Holocaust (1987)
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Wed Mar 01 2023 10:11 am

    This sounds like a movie you would like to turn off your brain and enjoy.

    Truth to be told, I was laughing all the way through it because of how badly made it was done. I needed a good deal of Zacapa rum to survive.

    The only good thing you can say about this one is that the Dark Master's second in command is a hottie and she gets to flash her tits. When that is the betst you can say of a movie, you know you have a problem.


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  • From Ogg@VERT/CAPCITY2 to Arelor on Thu Mar 2 19:13:00 2023
    Hello Arelor!

    ** On Tuesday 28.02.23 - 18:03, Arelor wrote to All:

    [...] I guarantee most of the population will commit
    suicide two minutes into the film, not because of the pain
    of watching the movie itself but because of the pain of
    knowing the Universe is such a dark place that the laws of
    physics allow movies like this to be a possibility.

    Don't watch. You have been warned.

    Glad to know that you survived the temptation to off yourself.

    It would be a great loss if we didn't get these hilarious
    reviews.


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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Ogg on Fri Mar 3 02:17:06 2023
    Re: Robot Holocaust (1987)
    By: Ogg to Arelor on Thu Mar 02 2023 07:13 pm

    Glad to know that you survived the temptation to off yourself.

    It would be a great loss if we didn't get these hilarious
    reviews.


    Somebody has to suffer in order to warn everybody else against bad movies. I guess I have to take the bullet.

    Some government should be paying me because I am performing public service.

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Ogg on Fri Mar 3 06:12:00 2023
    Ogg wrote to Arelor <=-

    of watching the movie itself but because of the pain of
    knowing the Universe is such a dark place that the laws of
    physics allow movies like this to be a possibility.

    Sounds like Roger Ebert's review of "The Human Centipede", and I quote:

    "I am required to award stars to movies I review. This time, I refuse to
    do it. The star rating system is unsuited to this film. Is the movie
    good? Is it bad? Does it matter? It is what it is and occupies a world
    where the stars don't shine."



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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Arelor on Fri Mar 3 06:16:00 2023
    Arelor wrote to Ogg <=-

    Somebody has to suffer in order to warn everybody else against bad
    movies. I guess I have to take the bullet.

    You do it with a panache I haven't seen since Joe Bob Briggs' "Drive-in
    Movie Reviews", a feature in the Sunday paper many years back.

    https://joebobbriggs.com/drive-in-movie-reviews

    Some government should be paying me because I am performing public service.

    Only if there was a government subsidy to *make* bad movies.

    We already have Hollywood, we need a Bad Movie Capitol.





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  • From Oldbieone@VERT/REALITY to poindexter FORTRAN on Fri Mar 3 12:58:42 2023
    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987)
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Ogg on Fri Mar 03 2023 06:12 am

    "I am required to award stars to movies I review. This time, I refuse to
    do it. The star rating system is unsuited to this film. Is the movie
    good? Is it bad? Does it matter? It is what it is and occupies a world
    where the stars don't shine."

    I guess there was only one star in the Human Centipede.... the one at the back, lol!
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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Mar 5 07:19:09 2023
    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987)
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Ogg on Fri Mar 03 2023 06:12 am

    Ogg wrote to Arelor <=-

    of watching the movie itself but because of the pain of
    knowing the Universe is such a dark place that the laws of
    physics allow movies like this to be a possibility.

    Sounds like Roger Ebert's review of "The Human Centipede", and I quote:

    "I am required to award stars to movies I review. This time, I refuse to
    do it. The star rating system is unsuited to this film. Is the movie
    good? Is it bad? Does it matter? It is what it is and occupies a world
    where the stars don't shine."



    I should get that movie and watch it.

    See, this friday I watched a movie expecting it to be bad, and it was actually quite good. I felt so disappointed XD

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Mar 5 07:20:37 2023
    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987)
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Arelor on Fri Mar 03 2023 06:16 am

    We already have Hollywood, we need a Bad Movie Capitol.

    I think Bollywood used to take the role of Bad Movie Industrial Production Centre, but if you ask me, I have the feeling Hollywood is trying very hard to snatch the title from their hands.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Arelor on Sun Mar 5 19:50:00 2023
    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: Arelor to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Mar 05 2023 07:20 am

    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987)
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Arelor on Fri Mar 03 2023 06:16 am

    We already have Hollywood, we need a Bad Movie Capitol.

    I think Bollywood used to take the role of Bad Movie Industrial Production Centre, but if you ask me, I have the feeling Hollywood is trying very hard snatch the title from their hands.

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    Bollywood has been producing some higher end films as of late. The last
    couple of Korean films i saw had higher production values, except I'm not
    sure if it was due to poor overdubbing or if it was poor placement for the comic relief characters.

    I saw two Russian films that were done well. One was story about Mikhial Kala shnikov and the other was called A Tank for Stalin. Both were historic
    dramas, a struggle between the little guy versus the larger powers that be.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ARELOR on Sun Mar 5 18:39:00 2023
    I think Bollywood used to take the role of Bad Movie Industrial Production Centre, but if you ask me, I have the feeling Hollywood is trying very hard
    o
    snatch the title from their hands.

    The last few Indian movies I watched were really quite good.


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  • From MRO@VERT/BBSESINF to Dumas Walker on Sun Mar 5 23:30:35 2023
    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: Dumas Walker to ARELOR on Sun Mar 05 2023 06:39 pm

    I think Bollywood used to take the role of Bad Movie Industrial Production Centre, but if you ask me, I have the feeling Hollywood is trying very hard
    o
    snatch the title from their hands.

    The last few Indian movies I watched were really quite good.


    i like that indian chuck norris guy.

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  • From Android8675@VERT/SHODAN to Moondog on Mon Mar 6 07:26:14 2023
    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Sun Mar 05 2023 07:50 pm

    Bollywood has been producing some higher end films as of late. The last couple of Korean films i saw had higher production values, except I'm not sure if it was due to poor overdubbing or if it was poor placement for the comic relief characters.

    Have you watched RRR? (on Netflix) That movie was quite good. There's a few good reviews of it on YouTube, The Critical Drinker has an excellent take on the film.

    https://youtu.be/HKN6FAKjFPU

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  • From poindexter FORTRAN@VERT/REALITY to Arelor on Mon Mar 6 06:49:00 2023
    Arelor wrote to poindexter FORTRAN <=-

    See, this friday I watched a movie expecting it to be bad, and it was actually quite good. I felt so disappointed XD

    I grew up watching a lot of UHF TV. We had a couple of local channels
    that played campy films, obtained at a low cost by these stations with
    low budgets. One played bad films until dawn on the weekends.



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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Moondog on Tue Mar 7 18:18:11 2023
    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Sun Mar 05 2023 07:50 pm

    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: Arelor to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Mar 05 2023 07:20 am

    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987)
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Arelor on Fri Mar 03 2023 06:16 am

    We already have Hollywood, we need a Bad Movie Capitol.

    I think Bollywood used to take the role of Bad Movie Industrial Productio Centre, but if you ask me, I have the feeling Hollywood is trying very ha snatch the title from their hands.

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    Bollywood has been producing some higher end films as of late. The last couple of Korean films i saw had higher production values, except I'm not sure if it was due to poor overdubbing or if it was poor placement for the comic relief characters.

    I saw two Russian films that were done well. One was story about Mikhial Ka shnikov and the other was called A Tank for Stalin. Both were historic dramas, a struggle between the little guy versus the larger powers that be.

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    I tend to agree. I happen to like many asian pieces better than current American cinema. Korean neo-noirs are quite fine. Their epics are also quite fine. Best of all, they lack all the Western political crap Hollywood is trying to bundle with everything. A number of people I have met online is actively rejecting American cultural material in favor of Asian material for that reason alone. Go figure.

    I have no experience with Russian cinema, but I have watched some mystery and detective pieces from Eastern Europe and they were ok (not great).

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  • From Arelor@VERT/PALANT to Dumas Walker on Tue Mar 7 18:19:03 2023
    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: Dumas Walker to ARELOR on Sun Mar 05 2023 06:39 pm

    I think Bollywood used to take the role of Bad Movie Industrial Production Centre, but if you ask me, I have the feeling Hollywood is trying very har
    o
    snatch the title from their hands.

    The last few Indian movies I watched were really quite good.


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    I agree. Eega and the Bhaahubali ones were great \o/

    I suspect I have typoed there very hard, heh.

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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to ARELOR on Wed Mar 8 16:08:00 2023
    The last few Indian movies I watched were really quite good.

    I agree. Eega and the Bhaahubali ones were great \o/

    I suspect I have typoed there very hard, heh.

    LOL, maybe, although I think the spelling of Bhahubali is close. :) Those
    are the ones I am familiar with. He is now my favorite super hero. :D


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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Arelor on Wed Mar 8 12:51:00 2023
    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: Arelor to Moondog on Tue Mar 07 2023 06:18 pm

    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: Moondog to Arelor on Sun Mar 05 2023 07:50 pm

    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: Arelor to poindexter FORTRAN on Sun Mar 05 2023 07:20 am

    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987)
    By: poindexter FORTRAN to Arelor on Fri Mar 03 2023 06:16 am

    We already have Hollywood, we need a Bad Movie Capitol.

    I think Bollywood used to take the role of Bad Movie Industrial Produc Centre, but if you ask me, I have the feeling Hollywood is trying very snatch the title from their hands.

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    Bollywood has been producing some higher end films as of late. The last couple of Korean films i saw had higher production values, except I'm not sure if it was due to poor overdubbing or if it was poor placement for th comic relief characters.

    I saw two Russian films that were done well. One was story about Mikhial shnikov and the other was called A Tank for Stalin. Both were historic dramas, a struggle between the little guy versus the larger powers that b

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    I tend to agree. I happen to like many asian pieces better than current American cinema. Korean neo-noirs are quite fine. Their epics are also quite fine. Best of all, they lack all the Western political crap Hollywood is try to bundle with everything. A number of people I have met online is actively rejecting American cultural material in favor of Asian material for that rea alone. Go figure.

    I have no experience with Russian cinema, but I have watched some mystery an detective pieces from Eastern Europe and they were ok (not great).

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    The Korean film Snowpiercer had a big budget Hollywood vibe. Big names such as Ed Harris and Chris Evans. Mostly British and US actors, except for two Korean actors who have parts in the story. They appear to be more or less in the story for Korean fan service.

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Arelor on Wed Mar 8 13:00:00 2023
    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: Arelor to Dumas Walker on Tue Mar 07 2023 06:19 pm

    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: Dumas Walker to ARELOR on Sun Mar 05 2023 06:39 pm

    I think Bollywood used to take the role of Bad Movie Industrial Product Centre, but if you ask me, I have the feeling Hollywood is trying very
    o
    snatch the title from their hands.

    The last few Indian movies I watched were really quite good.


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    I agree. Eega and the Bhaahubali ones were great \o/

    I suspect I have typoed there very hard, heh.

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    IIRC Sony Pictures has some investment in regional cinema, and some Bollywood big budget films are remakes of films that sold well in the other world markets. The stories are well written and best sellers. Hand them off to Bollywood and make them into 4 hour action films sprinkled with song and
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  • From Cougar428@VERT/CJSPLACE to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Thu Mar 9 22:57:00 2023
    Quoting Poindexter Fortran to Arelor <=-

    I grew up watching a lot of UHF TV. We had a couple of local channels
    that played campy films, obtained at a low cost by these stations with
    low budgets. One played bad films until dawn on the weekends.

    When I grew up, the television stations played the national anthem
    at midnight, then up came a test pattern for a few minutes, then
    static until 6AM.

    Then they played the the pledge of allegiance and back to the
    morning shows.

    Guess I'm showing my age. Now the things that overstimulate your
    mind keep going 24 hours a day. And forget the national anthem, you
    won't hear that.

    Cougar

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  • From Moondog@VERT/CAVEBBS to Cougar428 on Fri Mar 10 10:16:00 2023
    Re: Re: Robot Holocaust (1987
    By: Cougar428 to POINDEXTER FORTRAN on Thu Mar 09 2023 10:57 pm

    Quoting Poindexter Fortran to Arelor <=-

    I grew up watching a lot of UHF TV. We had a couple of local channels that played campy films, obtained at a low cost by these stations with low budgets. One played bad films until dawn on the weekends.

    When I grew up, the television stations played the national anthem
    at midnight, then up came a test pattern for a few minutes, then
    static until 6AM.

    Then they played the the pledge of allegiance and back to the
    morning shows.

    Guess I'm showing my age. Now the things that overstimulate your
    mind keep going 24 hours a day. And forget the national anthem, you
    won't hear that.

    Cougar

    ... I yam ehav tlsedet ni spgpinhi.

    ___ Blue Wave/QWK v2.20


    The networks expanded their programming to meet the older early bird and late
    night owl crowd. The early bird news is less likely to be channel surfed, which is better for advertisers. You can tell it's targetted towards senior citizens because the major advertisers are Gold Bond Powder, adult
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  • From Dumas Walker@VERT/CAPCITY2 to COUGAR428 on Fri Mar 10 16:37:00 2023
    Quoting Poindexter Fortran to Arelor <=-

    I grew up watching a lot of UHF TV. We had a couple of local channels that played campy films, obtained at a low cost by these stations with low budgets. One played bad films until dawn on the weekends.

    When I grew up, the television stations played the national anthem
    at midnight, then up came a test pattern for a few minutes, then
    static until 6AM.

    I remember that also. A couple of our local stations signed off around
    11PM or so at the time. In the Summer, I would stay up late to see that
    and always thought it was so neat.


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