• Assimilation

    From Kaelon@VERT to Arelor on Mon May 30 17:27:44 2022
    Re: Great Replacement Theory
    By: Arelor to Kaelon on Mon May 30 2022 06:13 pm

    Besides, as mentioned earlier, if you import people with a culture different enough from yours as a solution, your own culture will be extinguished nevertheless unless you assimilate the incomers. Notice I didn't say "integrate". I said "assimilate". This is the core reason why your average nationalist does not buy immigration as a solution.

    Completely agree. For me, and many who genuinely understand and appreciate the concept of the true "melting pot" (and, aside from the United States and a select handful of other countries, I haven't seen this done particularly well), assimilation is key. This means the extinguishing of the discernable cultural traits that are alienating and exclusionary, and the selective alignment of beneficial traits of that culture into the overarching emergent super-culture into which they are folded. So, to continue in the prior examples I've given, in the United States, Irish-Americans are not Irish - they are Americans from an Irish descendancy. Cuban-Americans are not Cuban - they are Americans from a Cuban origination. There is pride in the traditions and upbringing, but an eagerness to discard those that made Irish and Cubans "separate", and instead a primary on the American-ness given their assimilation. And we're talking two very differet periods of assimilation (the 1920s vs. the 1960s).

    Some people underestimates greatly how expansive certain cultures are and how defensive their members are regarding those cultures. This is probably because Westerns seem to think the usual Western traditions (based on religion, pagan customes from ages past and whatever have you) are lame and that people from other cultures have the same appreciation for their own culture as Westerns do for theirs. This is kind of dangerous because a single person pushing a cultural agenda is cute but four thousand are a political entity. The Opus Dei is harmless because there are so few of them: if they were 40% of the population chances are you'd live under a Christian Theocracy.

    Once again, we agree. The difficulty with some Western countries' naivete with the dificulty in assimilation is that they are eager to subordinate the parent culture into the new culture being assimilated. That's not how this works, and yet, there is a deep civic deficit in those countries with their origins, their national character, and the history of their civilization so as to provoke pride and appreciation in what makes that culture unique and distinct.

    To channel Star Trek's Borg - assimilated cultures must add their ethnic and biological distinctiveness to the assimilating super-culture. If done properly, that uniqueness becomes forever a part of the parent culture into which they are being assimilated, and the traits that would otherwise call for separation are completely jettisoned. The distinctive traits that make the assimilated culture unique are added to the distinctivness and uniqueness of the new parent culture. So, when Cubans assimilated into American society through Cuban-American melting-pot behavior, our humor, our cuisine, our history, and our Hispano-Iberian Caucasian roots became a new part of the emerging American super-culture. Cubans are as American as any other group, but far more so than any culture that hasn't properly assimilated or has resisted assimilation.

    In France, segregation and isolation of cultures inherently is abherrant to assimilation and resists this melting pot with instead a preference for fictitious integration.
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